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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!solace!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!quaking.demon.co.uk!quaking.demon.co.uk!mike From: mike@quaking.demon.co.uk (Mike Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Date: 7 Mar 1997 07:36:13 GMT Organization: Series 1 Software Message-ID: <5foghd$ea3@quaking.s1s.co.uk> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5dc7qq$hed@phoenix.sysbe.sysgo.de> <331D703C.971@absyss.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: quaking.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: quaking.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 39 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:163601 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2764 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:56395 comp.os.os2.advocacy:273282 Douglas Seay (seay@absyss.fr) wrote: : I've never looked for a definition of ``intuitiveness'', but I thought : it was "once you know feature A, how easily to you use B for the first : time". same look-and-feel is IMHO the crux of intuitive. vi has that. : Command line arguements are : colon [range] letter(s) [arguement(s)] : ie- :.,$s/THIS/THAT/g : ie- :wq : and the rest are : [times] letter(s) [arguement] : ie- 5dd : ie- dw : The curve to learn "A" is steep, I think that most of us agree on that. : And it takes forever to learn h-j-k-l if you don't have cursor keys on : your keyboard. But after that, the rest is easy, even "intuitive" :-) : doug seay : seay@absyss.fr <snip> On well, lets drop in my penny's worth. I agree that vi has a 'consistent' set of commands, and that it is very powerful. My two major hates are (a) that it has distinct insert and command modes and (b) lack of split windows. Conversely, I disliked emacs because of its rather inconsistent command set. In the end I reinvented the wheel, and wrote my own emacs-like editor which has a user base of two (me and a friend). Still, I understand how it works, its reasonably small, it runs under DOS, Windows and UNIX, and its extendable. I guess it would actually have been better to use my time learning, say, emacs, since even the most awful command set would be engraved on my brain after a while. Still, it was educational and (possibly) fun :-) mike