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Message-ID: <33233CDE.5C5BEF60@wlc.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 14:42:38 -0800 From: Madman <dhall@wlc.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.28 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Betting on Unix (text editors, & dead horse flogging) References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5ddcvf$4dh@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> <330a1d23.2419719@172.15.0.208> <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> <5f6fhq$el0@faculty.ed.umuc.edu> <5fsihd$oa7@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <33222b5e.0@atheria.europa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Lines: 60 Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!vic.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!psgrain!iafrica.com!bowl.news.pipex.net!pipex!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.bctel.net!news.inetex.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:163751 comp.os.linux.networking:71481 comp.os.linux.setup:101901 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6279 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2775 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:56529 comp.os.os2.advocacy:273531 Brian Knotts wrote: > > In <5fsihd$oa7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, kusogari@shef.ac.uk (Earl H. Kinmonth) writes: > >Robb Shecter (rshecter@faculty.ed.umuc.edu) wrote: > >: In article <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de>, > >: Stephan Pfab <pfab@mathematik.uni-ulm.de> wrote: > >: >edward@islandnet.com wrote: > > > >: There's something being missed here, though: Ancient programs like vi > >: and emacs that require the user to memorize a million keystrokes are just > >: too hard to use. > > > >Million? > > > >More like a couple of dozen max. Either that, or your version(s) > >of vi are more capable than mine. (MKS Toolkit for OS/2, SCO > >UNIX 5.0.2, SunOS, etc.) > > Plus, running in X, emacs has menus, and Xemacs has keyboard > equivalents listed on the menus! > > Now, it is fair to point out that there is no Xemacs "Make a New > Macro Wizard." > > :-) > > >: After all, these editors are the means, not the end. They should be > >: blindingly easy to use, like a Windows program. > > > >Since when are Windows programmes blindingly easy to use? > > Plus, you don't know when a Windows program, or "control panel," > or "wizard" will actually behave as intended, or when it simply > will refuse to carry out its assigned task. > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Brian Knotts http://www.europa.com/~bknotts > bknotts@removethistoemailme.europa.com End the war on the West! HTML editors too. I spend hours trying to get Microsloth Frontpage (tm) to run properly (it NEEDED to be connected to the net) before giving up doing it in text. I found that I got it done faster, and much cleaner. If you need to look at more than one text page, thats why we have virtual terminals. GUI's have their place, but can't beat the command line. ( I would like to point out that Microsoft actualy made their text-mode EDIT much nicer. it's probably the most imperssive improvement in Win95) PS: Please don't turn this into an OS flame war. Linux is MY choice, for MY needs in an OS. -- Inexperience can be overcome. | Madman: n. Ignorance can be enlightened. | 1) Intelectually independant But Prejudice will destroy you. | 2) dhall@wlc.com | 3) The one who wrote this message