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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA5182 ; Tue, 22 Dec 92 08:01:00 EST Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!cs.weber.edu!terry From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) Subject: Re: Dumb Question: Why 512 byte block? Message-ID: <1992Dec20.031324.436@fcom.cc.utah.edu> Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu Organization: University of Utah Computer Center References: <1992Dec18.030833.7395@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <1gt736INNjje@menudo.uh.edu> <1992Dec18.235623.27538@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <1gvv8gINN80e@menudo.uh.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 03:13:24 GMT Lines: 44 In article <1gvv8gINN80e@menudo.uh.edu>, wjin@cs.uh.edu (W. Woody Jin) writes: |> In article <1992Dec18.235623.27538@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes: |> > |> >You can't split blocks between files. |> |> Yes, you can. |> For example, you may have 4K size block with 512 byte fragment size. Mixed up blocks and frags in the context of the original post (re: the "df" command). You are, of course, right. |> BTW, could anyone clarify whether 386BSD uses the Fast Unix File System |> which is described in "A Fast File System For Unix" by McKusick, Joy, |> Leffler, and Fabry (1984 ACM Tran. on Computer System) ? Yes, it does. .... My point was that disk allocation was quantized at larger than 1 byte increments, and the larger those increments, the more space is actually used by a 1 byte file. My examples were correct for 4k blocks with 8 frags per block. The summation of this being that upping the size of a block will up the size of the _fragments_ of that block unless the number of fragments per block is also increased (isn't 8 the limit?). The problem here being, the disk will disappear faster with 8k/8 block frags than it will with 4k/8 blocks frags because of the number of files whose lengths aren't on block boundries. A smaller absolute fragment size (however it is arrived at) will result in less absolute disk real estate being take up for odd-sized files. Terry Lambert terry@icarus.weber.edu terry_lambert@novell.com --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I have an 8 user poetic license" - me Get the 386bsd FAQ from agate.berkeley.edu:/pub/386BSD/386bsd-0.1/unofficial -------------------------------------------------------------------------------