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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA5190 ; Tue, 22 Dec 92 09:01:10 EST Xref: sserve comp.unix.bsd:9173 comp.os.linux:19892 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.linux Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!hasty From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Subject: Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST) Message-ID: <1992Dec19.051858.17562@netcom.com> Keywords: Han Kanji Katakana Hirugana ISO10646 Unicode Codepages Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1992Dec18.043033.14254@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Dec18.212323.26882@netcom.com> <1992Dec18.235809.15484@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:18:58 GMT Lines: 51 In article <1992Dec18.235809.15484@midway.uchicago.edu> goer@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes: >> >>>One of the big criticisms leveled at US Engineers is that they are either >>>too dumb or lazy to build into their software support for non-Western >>>scripts. Given that Linux originates in Europe, can we look forward to >>>better support for Unicode and ISO10646? At least for "long" charac- >>>ter definitions? >> >>Yeah, that's probably why NT supports Unicode, it's those dumb US >>Engineers... Could we lay off idiotic generalizations and stick to >>technical aspects of the software? It's business that dictates what's >>included in the package. If it makes economic sense, it will be there. > >Don't be so quick to criticize. The December issue of UNIX world has >a few funny stories about American gaffes in Europe, and I've personally >heard many stories from Europeans myself along the same lines. I'd be >willing to bet that less than 5% of US software engineers even speak a >foreign language beyond the level of a few parlez vous. One of the big >problems we have is precisely the attitude that you display, namely that >most localizations should be done on-site. This is fine if multa) could be the group owner of telnet, ftp, and other outgoing network utilities. If the permisssion on the file are: -r-x---r-x 1 root png 42610 Nov 10 20:10 telnet Then people in the group png will be denied the ability to run telnet. This idea is called an exclusion group, and is correct behaviour. Perhaps the reason you are having NFS problems is because unknown users and root users from a remote system are translate to UID -1 and -2 unless you specify that root access is allowed on the remote machine in the /etc/exports file (your example seems to indicate you were logged in as root when you tried this). Admittedly, there are some permission comparison problems, but these are pretty well isolated, and will probably be more tha a one or two line fix. Terry Lambert terry@icarus.weber.edu terry_lambert@novell.com --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I have an 8 user poetic