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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!grumpy.fl.net.au!news.webspan.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!news.phil.uni-sb.de!news.julia.de!erbse!ralf From: ralf@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Ralf Baechle) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: 9 Mar 1997 18:20:28 GMT Organization: Uni Koblenz, Germany. Lines: 40 Distribution: World Message-ID: <5fuv1c$5n$1@alles.intern.julia.de> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5dbapu$t1f$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <x7n2ti4s7i.fsf@dumbcat.codewright.com> <5dc7qq$hed@phoenix.sysbe.sysgo.de> <5ddcvf$4dh@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> <330a1d23.2419719@172.15.0.208> <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> <330B2333.38B6@to.me.please> <330ea403.78621875@mambo> <330c6276.13111256@news.direct.ca> <5ehssl$mtl@milo.mcs.anl.gov> <5f851m$ea$2@alles.intern.julia.de> <331deee1.206246677@news.interlog.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: erbse.uni-koblenz.de To: bdh@deus.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:164833 comp.os.linux.networking:72177 comp.os.linux.setup:102894 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6350 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2823 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:57122 comp.os.os2.advocacy:275347 In article <331deee1.206246677@news.interlog.com>, bdh@nospam.deus.com (William de Haan) writes: |> On 1 Mar 1997 02:41:58 GMT, ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) wrote: |> |> >You guys all have never heared of TECO. TECO is infamous for accepting more |> >or less everything as a valid command. Giving TECO to a unknowing user is |> >like giving poisened razor blades to a kid for playing with. |> |> Ah, TECO. No WSYIWYG nonsense for TECO; it's the original YAFIYGI (you asked for |> it, you got it) editor - "cruel, cryptic, unforgiving, and dangerous", as I |> recall. One of the standard games you play with it is to type in your name as a |> command and see what it does. The thing I always admired about TECO macros was |> that they looked like so much line static... |> |> >Hell, if I'd just have TECO for Linux ... |> |> Now, THAT is something that I'd want to see... I admit I haven't used TECO yet - but installed as /usr/bin/vi other people do that for me :-> More seriously - in the child days of Linux/68k I've been editing files with sed, the GNU textutils and lots of tempfiles - until I had found and fixed a bug in Elvis. TECO can't be worse. It even took people here at the university some years until the made me switch from ed to vi. I think I just did it because I couldn't stand them crying when I used ed(1). I still hate those bloated pigs like vim - I just don't expect many people to share that opinion with me ... Ralf -- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to sun.koblenz.fh-rpl.de: >>> HELO kserver.koblenz.fh-rpl.de <<< 553 kserver.koblenz.fh-rpl.de host name configuration error 554 <user@uni-koblenz.de>... Service unavailable ----- Unsent message follows ----- (Hear me, postmaster ...)