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From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Subject: Re: [386BSD] Xfree86, XS3 Mouse configuration
In-Reply-To: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com's message of Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:50:08 GMT
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>> While I have the utmost respect for Roell's contributions, I am saddened
>> that he chose to flame Amancio like that.
>
>As are we all.
I love to see this happen that Amancio turns everything I say into the
opposite and against me personally. And also note that I did said any word
about my contributions here, this is expilicitly about somebody elses
contributions, which I'm really missing named.
What drives me really crazy, most of them time when he posts something,
he doesn't answer the question asked (see this recent ET4000 vs. ET4000/W32
thread) instead he tells everybody how great his XS3 is. Besides this, read
carefully his reply to my posting. What I said was basically:
- He talk on the net as if he was the only one doing XS3 alone
- The S3's graphics eingine differes only in one register from
a 8514/A
What he answered was:
- The README contains other names
- The S3's SVGA registers differ from that of a 8514/A (which is
natural since the 8514/A has no SVGA registers)
See, what I mean ? There is no relation between questioning and anserwering.
That's one my crititcs.
>Please note - I'm not trying to take ANYTHING away from Amancio. It's
>just that Rich's contributions to XFree86, and support of 386BSD, are
>very large, and tend to be completely overlooked. Amancio has been
>concentrating on XS3, and Rich has done ALL of the XFree86 work for the
>last many months. So please give credit where it's due. Amancio's
>work is great, but so is Rich's.
Implicitely you all seem to strengthen only my point here. Amancio's work
on XS3 is really great, not doubt about this. But one should also see behind
the curtain and see there that XS3 is based on a working 8514/A server.
And doing the 8514/A server from scratch is much more work and deserves
much more credits than 'just' doing the hw specific initialisation of
just another mostly 8514/A compatible chipset. I just wanted to remind
people about this.
- Thomas
PS: My oppionions about Amancio might be pretty much influenced by how
he articlulates himself in private e-mail communiction about real
issues. If somebody writes in a technical discussion if he's out of
arguments 'Fuck you', what would you think of him ?
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