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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA5299 ; Wed, 23 Dec 92 07:00:32 EST Xref: sserve comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:796 comp.unix.sysv386:26472 comp.unix.bsd:9233 comp.os.linux:20043 Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.linux Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!uunet!math.fu-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!roell From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell) Subject: Re: ET4000/W32 and VESA VL-Bus In-Reply-To: hasty@netcom.com's message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:56:12 GMT References: <1992Dec17.080653.4328@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> <1992Dec17.190542.2662@utagraph.uta.edu> <1992Dec18.095906.3950@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> <1992Dec18.185612.10836@netcom.com> Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem) Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 14:30:35 GMT Message-ID: <1992Dec20.143035.23332@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> Lines: 42 >All XS3 published benchmarks are run at 1024x768 clocked at higher >than 60 Hz. I obtained the results from netters because I don't >own a high resolution monitor. During candid, e-mail exchange I do >state my own benchmarks. In the future I will state the clock >frequency and the resolution. In fact nobody accused you that you posted illegaly tuned benchmarks by using the lowest possible resolution. As it happens this wasn't the question. Normally what you get as benchmarks is material published by the vendors (how have no interest of showing any weakness of their own product) or magazines, which are largely DOS/Windows based, and hence try to find the least common resolution between boards. Until recently this was either 640x480 or 800x600. And in these lower resolutions you simply cannot see this problem described with DRAM vs. VRAM that clearly. If you then think about the fact that most people using X do 1024x768 in the highest possible refresh rates, these benchmarks are pretty much meaningless (besides the fact that they are mostly measure with drivers that were tuned especially for MS-Windows and some benchmarks, who are very easy to fool). As far as I know up to now no HW vendor yet publicates the XS3 xstones rating for his board ... They are mostly not intrested in X-Windows as much as they are interested in MS-Windows. And one thing people shoudln't forget this that there are two new developements in the market: a) people are starting to use 1280x1024 (110MB/sec) b) chips using 64 DRAM buses start to appear But still VRAM will have a speed advantage over DRAM. And if the price difference is that inferior as $50, one should really think about it. - Thomas -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Das Reh springt hoch, e-mail: roell@sgcs.com das Reh springt weit, #include <sys/pizza.h> was soll es tun, es hat ja Zeit ...