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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.thenet.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!199.232.240.7!kayrad.ziplink.net!rtfm.ziplink.net!mi From: mi@rtfm.ziplink.net (Mikhail Teterin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc Subject: Re: no such thing as a "general user community" Date: 24 Mar 1997 05:59:58 GMT Organization: Aldan at Newton Upper Falls Lines: 50 Message-ID: <5h558u$9li$4@kayrad.ziplink.net> References: <331BB7DD.28EC@net5.net> <5fj37m$oeb$1@kayrad.ziplink.net> <5g9mfj$emd@news.ecn.bgu.edu> <5glc5l$io6$4@kayrad.ziplink.net> <5gq16g$6d1@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> Reply-To: mi@ALDAN.ziplink.net..remove-after-`net' NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.232.255.52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.sco.misc:37217 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:37644 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6446 comp.sys.sgi.misc:29382 Honorable John Whitley wrote on 20 Mar (in article <5gq16g$6d1@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu>): =etc, etc.) SGI "invented" the GL, which formed the core of OpenGL for =good reason -- they did good work on designing GL in the first place. Thanks. =The point is that OpenGL support on PC-level hardware has some =problems right now... this is natural as the market for this level of =3D graphics has only just become reality in the PC world. Yes. Still, graphics support is a secondary issue comparing OSes. >>=You can pick up a nice O2 for $6,000. >> >>The 1G SCSI drive from SGI costs ~1000 dollars... Upgrades would be >>too expensive... =Get a clue and buy from a third party vendor like everyone else in the =world. I'm happy with the noname intel box which is still cheaper then anything you can get from the most discounting dealer. Thanks for a clue. >>That's what we did. And it had Irix 5.2. And SGI will not give us patches, >>as we purchased it second hand without "service contract". =So your last two comments indicate that you didn't know enough to do =your homework before buying and/or that you didn't factor in the cost =of the right level of support contract for your needs. And I'm =supposed to be sympathetic...? Please, do not be. I was talking about SGI's fix policy -- you have to pay for the correction of their errors (and someone has also mentioned this here). Call that a ``service-contract'' or anything else. I agree to pay for new features, but not for fixes of the problems, which are not supposed to exist. =OTOH, this doesn't mean that SGI/IRIX don't have their domains of =dominance. Simply put, serving news is not the sum-in-toto of the =computing experience. Maybe the words "visual computing" will ring a =bell somewhere... Yes, they do. I wonder what you personaly put into the marketing term "visual computing", though? -mi -- "Windows for dummies"