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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!news.radio.cz!newsbastard.radio.cz!news.radio.cz!CESspool!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!cyclic.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.silcom.com!not-for-mail From: David Carmean <dlc@silcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc Subject: Re: Stronghold and other binaries for OpenBSD 2.0 Date: 27 Mar 1997 00:08:59 GMT Organization: A client of: Silicon Beach - Business Internet Services Lines: 62 Message-ID: <5hcdqr$fq3@ocean.silcom.com> References: <5hbjqi$20j@ocean.silcom.com> <3339D4C9.167EB0E7@FreeBSD.org> <5hcngo$oju$1@threadway.teeny.org> <5hcrlj$fmo@panix2.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: beach.silcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970118] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc:31 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:37915 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2896 In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@panix.com> wrote: : In article <5hcngo$oju$1@threadway.teeny.org>, : Jason Downs <downsj@threadway.teeny.org> wrote: : >In article <3339D4C9.167EB0E7@FreeBSD.org>, : > "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org> writes: : >>David Carmean wrote: : >>> OpenBSD was recommended because of the security stance "out of : >>> the box". My question is about binary application (read: commercial) : >> : >>Sigh. That stance is getting a little old. : > : >Yes, I can imagine why you'd feel that way. : > : I'm sure you can imagine many things, Jason. OK, well, while you guys continue your flamewar I seem to have stumbled into, I'll tell you what *I'm* experiencing. (Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in ANY of the systems when I saw this kind of stuff -- accusations of malicious #ifdefs and such -- flying around.) I'm trying to bring up a web server for a client on a tight schedule, for installation at a co-lo site. I don't have a lot of time to learn how to install/config whichever *BSD version I choose. Although I run Linux on a 486 as my "workstation", I don't like it for servers. We run FreeBSD 2.1.5R for our nameserver at my day job, and it works fine. I tried OpenBSD. It's not recognizing the top 64MB of the 128MB. I'm told by a kernel-hacker fond of OpenBSD that this is a known problem, and that I can hardcode the size in the kernel config. Fine. But so far, the only way I've been able to figure out how to configure the machine is by reading the rc files. If there are better docs somewhere, please point me to them! I'm not expecting Plug-n-Play, but HOWTOs are nice. Plus, I haven't had anybody tell me that they've gotten Stronghold to run. This friend has hacked the source and gotten it to run, but even he's not confident of the stability, and C2 hasn't called him back about cooperating on a port. This seems to be a package that is fine for BSD gurus and kernel hackers, but I am neither at this point. So we decided to switch to FreeBSD, but it seems like all of the 2.2.1R distributions are in various states of disarray after some fits and starts with the release....I've tried three so far (install via FTP) and it's either looking for the wrong file extensions or the directory contents are missing altogether. So...after seeing recommendations in the newsgroup to move to the 2.2 branch, but not being able to find a working distribution, I guess I'm going to try 2.1.7.1 now, and cross my fingers. (Boy, this is the week I thank the employer gods that gave me a 384K frame relay line to my house :o) -- David Carmean <dlc@avtel.net> Avtel Communications, Santa Barbara, CA +1-805-730-7740 Opinions herein are those of the author only, unless otherwise noted