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From: tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: question
Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:30:38 -0500
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In article <5hhhkl$6mm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
eric richard haszlakiewicz <haszlaki@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Alex Wu (nausica@ecs.school.net.hk) wrote:
>: Anyone would tell me the difference between Netware & Unix  ?
>: Also , what is Linux ?
>
>	Unix is the general OS idea which includes processes + multiprocessing,
>memory protection schemes so processes don't trample on each other, networking

This isn't quite right.  I think you mean either "multitasking" or
"multiprogramming", not "multiprocessing".  Some versions of Unix do run on
multiprocessor machines, but that's hardly an essential feature of the
operating system.

Strrictly speaking, Unix is a trademark of X/OPEN for operating system
software.  You can call yourself "Unix" if you pass X/OPEN's (lousy,
every-useless-feature-under-the-sun) XPG4 test -- or if you retain the right
to call yourself "Unix" because your operating system is a licensed version
of the original Unix operating system from Bell Labs.

>and many other features.  Netware is a version of it from Novell (I think).

No.  Netware is a proprietary operating system developed by Novell for their
network fileserver product; it's not like Unix at all.

Novell did *own* USL once, and planned to move away from their proprietary
operating system and to Unix.  Unfortunately they... well, blew it.  Unixware
(with its extensive Novell server and client support) was the fruit of this
temporary union.

>Along with others like SunOs/Solaris, IRIX, etc..., it is a commercial unix.

No, it isn't.

>Linux is a free version of unix based on System V.  Other free unices include

No, it is not.  Linux is not "a version of Unix", nor is it "based on System
V".  If it were, it couldn't be given away for free.

>FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD which are based on the berkley version of unix.
>(The 'B' in BSD)

Now, I think of the present BSD operating systems as "free versions of BSD
Unix", but strictly speaking they aren't.  They're based on 4.4BSD-Lite, which
is a free POSIX-compliant operating system which has had all of the "Unix"
code that was in BSD Unix rewritten or removed so that it can be given away
for free.  Therefore, 4.4BSD-Lite and its derivatives meet neither the
"licensed from AT&T/USL/whoever" standard for being able to call themselves
"Unix", nor the "complies with X/OPEN XPG4" standard for being able to call
themselves "Unix", so legally they can't.

Note that this is equally true of Linux, but you see advertisements all the
time claiming that Linux is "a free [version of] Unix", etc.  This is
indicative of really nothing but contempt for trademark law on the part of the
people who write advertisements like that, but if SCO and X/OPEN continue to
allow their trademark to be diluted in this manner, perhaps they'll lose it,
which might in fact end quite a bit of this confusion.

Oh, by the way, a note to the original poster -- you got lucky this time.  You
shouldn't count on being able to post your homework assignments to the net, so
that other people will do them for you.  Pray that I don't carbon this, plus
your original article, to your professor.

-- 
 Thor Lancelot Simon	                                      tls@rek.tjls.com

	Most things do not correlate with actual behavior.
						 	  -George Conklin