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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sesqui.net!uuneo.neosoft.com!web.nmti.com!peter From: peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: BSD or Linux? Supersedes: <5i1pfd$ieu@web.nmti.com> Date: 4 Apr 1997 02:37:10 GMT Organization: Network/development platform support, NMTI Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5i1pgm$if0@web.nmti.com> References: <3341d1a6.6644689@news.uni-mannheim.de> <5hp65n$fd1@chronicle.concentric.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sonic.nmti.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.misc:2936 comp.os.linux.misc:167848 In article <5hp65n$fd1@chronicle.concentric.net>, Rick Evans <Rkevans@cris.com> wrote: > The one > thing you can't do with FSF programs is try to steal them from their > original owners. Actually you can do that, so long as you keep them GPL (that special kind of free). It's more complex, and we'll have to get into some of the more subtle advantages and disadvantages some other time, lest we get into a flame war. > Time passed, and there was more than one set of BSD tapes, but the > details aren't important here... Until people who didn't have a > license to the original Unix started using BSD, thinking that it > had so many changes from the original that it was a 'different > thing' altogether. Actually, no. CSRG (Berkeley) went through and removed all the original UNIX parts of UNIX at this point, and released them. AT&T claimed they hadn't removed them all, and that in any case the "overall structure" was theirs. CSRG riposted with "but you used our code (csh, vi, some other nifty and free stuff they'd done at Berkeley) without giving us credit". So USL (AT&T) said "Um, sorry, tell you what, remove a few more files so we can save face and we'll drop our suit if you drop yours". The BSD code is also a special kind of free. It's a different special kind of free than the Linux code. And that's a good thing, because if it wasn't then they wouldn't have been able to get USL to back down. This may seem a nitpick, but it really is important. There's no "pirate blood" in the BSD past, which is what you made it sound like. -- The Reverend Peter da Silva, ULC, COQO, BOFH, KIBO. Har du kramat din varg, idag? `-_-' (how do you say "We are all Kibo" in Norwegian?)