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From: rone@bofh.noc.best.net (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc
Subject: Re: no such thing as a "general user community"
Date: 2 Apr 1997 19:50:33 -0800
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In article <5huvun$hlq@fido.asd.sgi.com>,
Larry McVoy <lm@slovax.engr.sgi.com> wrote:
>If _you_ wish to use lmbench to compare operating systems on the same
>platform, be my guest.  But since that was not my goal, and I have
>never claimed that it was my goal, stop claiming that I did a bad job
>of realizing _your_ goal.  It's your frigging goal, not mine.

The common perception seems to be that, to make a comparison between
two operating systems which run on the same chipset, a fair comparison
would involve running the benchmark on both operating systems on
similar hardware.

Now, if your intention was not to run a fair comparison with your
benchmark, but just to generate some cool numbers, or whatever other
goal you might have had at the time, then you are 100% in the right.

>Anyone can look at some work, claim it doesn't do what they want it
>to do and therefor the work is "bogus" or "unscientific".  By that
>definition, _all_ published works are "bogus" and "unscientific".

Certainly.  It lies with the creator of the work to explicitly mention
what he is trying to accomplish with the work.

Now, forgive me, as i was not at USENIX, but, from what i've
understood, you used lmbench to benchmark Linux on a machine which was
faster than the one on which you benchmarked FreeBSD.  I am not
certain that this is 100% accurate; if it is not, then forget it.  If
it is, then, what were you trying to accomplish?

>That _is_ science, is it not?

"We forgot to hook up the doll!"

rone
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