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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!irz401!orion.sax.de!uriah.heep!news From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD (or something else?) Date: 5 Apr 1997 17:59:11 GMT Organization: Private BSD site, Dresden Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5i63tf$99q@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <332c9a76.3278270@news.adelaide.on.net> <332f5ffb.519605@news.sprynet.com> <5h51ma$b1u$2@kayrad.ziplink.net> <3337e3ad.1847437@news.sprynet.com> <5hbh2g$gah$1@kayrad.ziplink.net> <333990e3.2587820@news.sprynet.com> <333EE698.41C67EA6@kzin.dorm.umd.edu> <3343cbbf.1091644@news.sprynet.com> <5i1216$gc4$1@news3.realtime.net> <33457087.6003026@news.sprynet.com> Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.heep.sax.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:168223 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:38553 lcappite@sprynet.com (Goatboy) wrote: > 1) I could care less about Java. It's slow, inefficient, and all hype > and no content. I hope it does just like beta. There's a lot of marketing hype with Java, sure. But i had to learn that it's a somewhat pragmatic, but carefully thought language. Not only that they've learnt from languages like C++ (and understood to not scare off programmers by creating an entirely new syntax), they have also a security concept in mind from the beginning. Given that Java has mainly been designed to be an ``Internet language'', this is the only correct strategy to use. Now compare this with ActiveX... You know the story of the German Chaos Computer Club who demonstrated (to state an example) that you can fairly easily abuse ActiveX to perform arbitrary actions on the clients machine, including starting the client's bank accounting program, and initiate a money transfer? =:-) Java is interpreted, sure, that makes it not very fast. But it's platform-independent. I've never seen platform-independant code come out of M$. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)