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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail From: tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: *BSD Unification? Date: 8 Apr 1997 19:02:49 -0400 Organization: Panix Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5ieiqp$j4k@panix2.panix.com> References: <860029226.1885@dejanews.com> <5i1aav$qd@web.nmti.com> <E8A8qs.HB2@sep.hamburg.com> <5idl7p$85a$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Reply-To: tls@rek.tjls.com NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Newsposter: trn 4.0-test55 (26 Feb 97) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:38751 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:5782 comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc:59 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2957 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:1224 In article <5idl7p$85a$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, Giao Nguyen <grail@functional.com> wrote: >In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Helge Oldach <hmo@sep.hamburg.com> wrote: >: In <5i1aav$qd@web.nmti.com> peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >: | [BSD] networking [is] a relatively easy module to steal, if you just >: | look at the number of people who've done it (including, by some >: | rumors, good old Microsoft). > >: "Steal" is a bit oversimplified in this particular case. :-) > >If memory serves me right, Microsoft did not steal the socket library. >I believe they licensed it around December of 95. I think you misunderstood the sense in which Peter used the word "steal". There wasn't anything for Microsoft to license from Berkeley; including Berkeley code in a commercial product requires merely compliance with the terms given in the copyright notice and license affixed to the head of each source file. OTOH if the Win '95 documentation doesn't say "This product contains software developed by the University of California, Berkeley and its contributors" somewhere Micro$oft is violating those terms, IANAL. -- Thor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com Most things do not correlate with actual behavior. -George Conklin