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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA5624 ; Fri, 01 Jan 93 01:51:18 EST Xref: sserve comp.unix.bsd:9414 comp.os.linux:20669 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:836 Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!uunet!pipex!warwick!uknet!comlab.ox.ac.uk!jon From: jon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Jon Tombs) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: ET4000/W32 and VESA VL-Bus Message-ID: <1992Dec28.103211.12677@diomedes.robots.ox.ac.uk> Date: 28 Dec 92 10:32:11 GMT References: <1992Dec17.190542.2662@utagraph.uta.edu>> <1992Dec18.095906.3950@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> <1hloneINNfnn@cbl.umd.edu> Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK. Lines: 48 Originator: jon@diomedes.robots In article <1hloneINNfnn@cbl.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes: >>Also there are quite a number of S3 chips, which use EITHER VRAM or >>DRAM: > >> 86C911 VRAM >> 86C924 VRAM >> 86C801 DRAM >> 86C805 DRAM >> 86C928 VRAM > > >>What I am saying is that for 1028x768 in 70Hz and 1280x1024 you should >>generally forget the DRAM based solutions. Even if they look good at >>benchmarks; most of these benchmarks used a 640x480 resolution, >>where the screen refresh only takes 25MB/sec, and the available >>bandwidth for graphics operations is quite the same as for VRAM based >>solutions. But if you use the DRAM based boards at 1024x768, 70Hz, >>you'll see the difference. The 801 is indeed DRAM based (60ns DRAM), For the 911 and 801 boards both for 71Hz refresh at 1024x768 on a 13MHz ISA bus I get: 70MHz S3 911 (Actix GraphicsEngine70) TOTAL 103781 lineStones TOTAL 21777 fillStones TOTAL 16997 blitStones TOTAL 2580416 arcStones TOTAL 83875 textStones TOTAL 46797 complexStones TOTAL 37496 xStones S3 801 (Actix GraphicsEngine32) TOTAL 107908 lineStones TOTAL 42632 fillStones TOTAL 31590 blitStones TOTAL 2975512 arcStones TOTAL 117562 textStones TOTAL 92352 complexStones TOTAL 64061 xStones When I get back from holiday I'll repeat the benchmarks at several different clock speeds and resolutions. Possibly the 801 will be faster at lower clock speed/resolutions, but it is still thrashing the VRAM based Actix GraphicsEngine70, which was the fastest 911 based card I found. -- Jon <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk> (for a .vacation fortune) "I got in today just as the sun was crashing"