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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!vbcnet-west!knews.uk0.vbc.net!vbcnet-gb!azure.xara.net!xara.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news.webspan.net!usenet From: gpalmer@SPAM.webspan.net (Gary Palmer) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: BSD vs Linux Date: 19 May 1997 19:15:22 EDT Organization: WebSpan Inc., New Jersey Lines: 51 Sender: gpalmer@mutara.noc.webspan.net Message-ID: <5lqmua$dhs@news.webspan.net> References: <337A4307.3BF9@vertexcomm.com> <87k9l1twjc.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> <5lnct0$47$2@klemm.gtn.com> <87lo5bmued.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mutara.noc.webspan.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:41232 In article <87lo5bmued.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu>, stephen farrell <stephen+usenet@farrell.org> writes: > 2. I really hate the fact that freebsd seems to see linux as it's > biggest competitor and measuring stick. leave linux alone; it's > microsoft that is the real enemy. Speaking personally, I don't think we really view either camp as competitors. Linux has its strengths. NT has others. FreeBSD has yet another set of strengths. I also don't really see M$ as an enemy. Win NT (the solution M$ has pitted against *nix) is a totally different beast to *nix. The fact that you can't rip the gloss off and start tuning stuff for different applications just stinks to my mind. Another problem with the NT solution is (IMHO) that you run into the ``Oh, this is GUI, it's really simple. So I won't wake <insert name of sysadmin here> up to do this, I'll just do it myself''. Then the admin gets woken an hour later when everything stops working. I'm not saying having a GUI wouldn't be nice, but it has it's disadvantages too (can you see Dilberts boss becoming the network admin? :-) ) > 4. I like the technical forwardness of linux. I like the extensive > module support (I have an almost completely generic kernel), I like > the native threading support, the stable SMP, and I like the > *momentum* of the linux community. There are tons of cool projects > going on for linux, and it definitely feels to me that it is "pulling > ahead" of FreeBSD, where it started off way behind technically. I think FreeBSD's SMP is pretty stable too, and (from what I understand) both Linux's implimentation and FreeBSD's rely on the `one big lock' system at the minute (although my knowledge of Linux's implimentation is 2nd hand and may be out of date) I'll admit some areas of FreeBSD haven't gotten the attention they deserve, but I think that is changing now (e.g. interrupt system is in for a revamp, as is the underutilized lkm system, etc). > 5. I like the /proc filesystem on linux. I'm a big fan of flashing > lights and the /proc filesystem makes it trivial to write status > utilities. That is relatively easy to emulate using either a much-customized portal fs or perhaps a linux_procfs. I do *NOT* want to touch /proc on FreeBSD, since it is meant to be a window onto the process table, filling it with junk is (IMHO) wrong, and I think Linux should have found another window onto the kernel for the odds and ends that are now in /proc Gary