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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!news.ucdavis.edu!relay.nuxi.com!obrien From: David E. O'Brien <obrien@relay.nuxi.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: FreeBSD development question Date: 27 May 1997 06:19:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 28 Message-ID: <5mduee$6qr$4@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <337F43DC.371@xxsnet.net> <5lqk7b$mo0@electra.saaf.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: nuxi.ucdavis.edu Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:41662 G|ran Hasse <gorhas@electra.saaf.se> wrote: > Noop.. sorry! I have NEVER seen a GUI development tool that > can match the stuff done by a "real" programmer! Come now. And I supose you like gdb on the command line. Three years of gdb and I still can't do 1/4 of what I can do in CodeView or Borland's IDE. Unix debuggers (interface speaking) simply SUCK! > The fact is that Borland C++ and Borland Delphi are toys in > many respect. You can do "simple" programs (for showing at > a computer fair) but serious tings have to bee done the > "hard" way. Bull shit! I can't speak for Delphi (never seen it), but comeon people, Borland's IDE is simply and integrated editor, make, and debugger. IT doesn't do the coding for you. Nothing magical is going on -- you still get to get your hands dirty on the coding. If you aren't an Emacs power user, the editor is useable for %80 of the stuff, and the rest you can shell out to your prefered editor. So how is Borland's IDE that much different from Emacs, with gdb and shelling out make? answer: Simply the key stokes. (and a debugger that makes sence) -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org)