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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.telstra.net!act.news.telstra.net!brian.telstra.net!news.ci.com.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!vbcnet-west!knews.uk0.vbc.net!vbcnet-gb!azure.xara.net!xara.net!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu net!204.137.200.41!news.cyberg8t.com!Empire.Net!usenet From: donham@escrime.kidpub.org (Perry Donham) Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.solaris Subject: Re: unix acronyms -collecting a list? Date: 21 May 1997 11:06:59 -0400 Organization: KidPub WWW Publishing Sender: donham@escrime.kidpub.org Distribution: inet Message-ID: <m2lo58zwx7.fsf@escrime.kidpub.org> References: <5kd2ng$c8b$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <33802E2A.79546DDB@actrix.gen.nz> <slrn5o0uic.iog.hdm@stress.noc.demon.net> <3381A814.5FFF@ford.com> <5lttcl$ht9@dukat.mark.nfr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.164.80.217 In-reply-to: mark@dukat.mark.nfr.com's message of 21 May 1997 00:23:49 -0400 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.6 Lines: 35 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.shell:45626 comp.os.linux.misc:178149 comp.os.linux.x:63110 alt.os.linux:21772 comp.unix.bsd.misc:3464 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:42032 gnu.misc.discuss:31565 comp.unix.solaris:108225 >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Sienkiewicz <mark@dukat.mark.nfr.com> writes: Mark> Many people seem to have an opinion on the meaning of "su". Mark> Going to the source: Mark> "UNIX TIME-SHARING SYSTEM: UNIX PROGRAMMERS MANUAL Seventh Mark> Edition, Volume 1 January, 1979" [snip] Mark> This, by the way, is called a "reference". It is how you Mark> tell someone where the information comes from. The nice Mark> thing about a reference is that anybody can check it. If Mark> you can find a copy of the same book, you can see that what Mark> I quoted above is accurate and not just "gee, I seem to Mark> remember that..." or even "I heard from somebody who heard Mark> from somebody who talked to Dennis Ritchie that..." Point taken, however non-referential discourse is at the very core of being human. If everyone just immediately spouted chapter and vers on every topic, we wouldn't have much of a discussion, would we? Were I coding a program that was to participate in the Turing Test, for example, I'd certainly have it respond to many questions with, "I seem to recall that..." (No, wait, I seem to recall that Turing, in his original paper, called the test 'The Imitation Game'. I have the reference here somewhere...) Regards, Perry -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Finger donham@kidpub.org for PGP public key PGP encrypted mail welcome Visit KidPub! http://www.kidpub.org/kidpub