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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!europa.clark.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!IN-Berlin.DE!fub!mind.de!nostromo.in-berlin.de!ripley From: ripley@nostromo.in-berlin.de (H. Eckert) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: To buy or not to buy.... Date: 5 Jun 1997 11:07:28 GMT Organization: Private access site (FreeBSD 2.2.1), Berlin, Germany, Europe Lines: 45 Message-ID: <slrn5pd7fg.5mt.ripley@nortobor.nostromo.in-berlin.de> References: <33792404.167EB0E7@silas.cc.monash.edu.au> <337BB57A.1C0D@OntheNet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: nortobor.nostromo.in-berlin.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.3.2 UNIX) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:42461 tonyg@OntheNet.com.au (Tony Griffiths): > David Henshaw wrote: > > DECstation 5000/25 > > - 40M RAM > > - 424M SCSI Disk (Internal) > > Hmm... The big monitor and high-end graphics card are probably the most > valuable things in this box. It's a bit ligh on in memory for a RISC > machine but probably workable. The SCSI disk is _definitely_ on the > ABSOLUTE MINIMUM boundary for an Ultrix-RISC install. You won't have > room for setting up proxy caches, etc. unless you add more! Well, compared to my DECstation 2100 which has 8MByte memory and came installed with a 200MByte disk only, this machine is quite nice. It depends a lot on what you intend to do with it, of course. (David: In case you take it insist on getting some installation media) > graphics!). Also, it is probably NOT a high speed chip so the maximum > speed you could reliably get is 19200 bps. 38400 should be possible but probably not supported by the OS. The limited serial port was the reason I got a FreeBSD machine as a server instead of using my DECstation for communications. (The 2100 only has lame 9600bd w/o full modem/flow control) > Also, I seem to recall that Ultrix only supported SLIP, not PPP, for > serial comms. Most ISPs still support SLIP for async serial but it is > definitely on the "way out"! There is a free PPP package that compiles out of the box under Ultrix and works just fine. In fact I never got the supplied SLIP package (which belongs to the unsupported subset anyway) to work... > > 2). Would I be better of obtaining a second hand PC at the same cost ? Do you need a graphics station or a communications server ? Greetings, Ripley -- H. Eckert, 10777 Berlin, Germany ISO 8859-1: Ä=Ae, Ö=Oe, Ü=Ue, ä=ae, ö=oe, ü=ue, ß=sz. "(Technobabbel)" (Jetrel) - "Müssen wir uns diesen Schwachsinn wirklich anhören?" (Neelix)