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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA6636 ; Mon, 11 Jan 93 16:37:40 EST Xref: sserve alt.bbs.internet:5389 alt.pcnews:240 alt.sources.wanted:2936 alt.sys.sun:7876 comp.unix.bsd:9895 Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs.unixbbs,alt.pcnews,alt.sources.wanted,alt.sys.sun,alt.uu.announce,alt.suit.att-bsdi,comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!uunet!world!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Subject: Re: Software from U.C. Berkeley In-Reply-To: domino@violet.berkeley.edu's message of 14 Jan 1993 00:22:39 GMT Message-ID: <BZS.93Jan14002031@world.std.com> Sender: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Organization: The World References: <1j2bof$240@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 05:20:31 GMT Lines: 36 From: domino@violet.berkeley.edu (Steven (Weebles) Santiago) >Good day to you all! The software catalog from the University of >California, Berkeley is going into production for distribution >in the new year. The catalog contains a descriptions, specs, and >fee schedules for licensable software in the following areas: Have the UCB lawyers cleared all this? Or are people going to get left holding the bag again being sued for using software being released by UCB? Although I hardly hold UCB culpable in the Net2 suit (basically what they did, release Net2, was a wonderful thing), and in my heart believe that USL is just plain wrong in the suit and UCB is ultimately a victim of some really vicious greed, it might be nice to hear something of a statement from UCB about to what extent they will go to back up their claims that this software has clear title, even in an unfair world. Or perhaps at least make some attempt to warn people who receive this software about how wrong things can go. Right now I'd describe UCB's stance in the Net2 suit as "waffling", begrudgingly cooperative, resenting the costs, refusing donations (i.e. refusing to commit to the public defending the claims they made to that public), etc. But if they truly believe otherwise right now would be a real good time to make it known. This is all ugly and unfortunate, but pointing that out won't make it go away, a lot of good people are getting really hurt by this, maybe UCB should demand that USL sign it all off or something. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@world.std.com | uunet!world!bzs Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD