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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!news.radio.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.alt.net!news1.alt.net!pavanas From: pavanas@meridio.ccia.com (pavanas abludo incusus) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Gotta Love Those FreeBSD Installs Date: 14 Jul 1997 19:15:35 GMT Organization: Aragorn Asteria Lines: 65 Message-ID: <slrn5skuoe.eie.pavanas@meridio.ccia.com> References: <5p9v93$ncp$1@207.18.94.16> <5pkl7h$kf8$1@the-fly.zip.com.au> <33C690EE.167E@nas.nasa.gov> Reply-To: pavanas@bbs.mpcs.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.4.2 UNIX) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:44430 On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:00:46 -0700, Hugh LaMaster <lamaster@nas.nasa.gov> mused and hath written: >> pavanas abludo incusus (pavanas@meridio.ccia.com) wrote: >> > >> > Each and every time am install is a real adventure unlike those ho-hum >> > sedate Linux ones. This last escapade brought up a few questions. > >Actually, although I'm new to FreeBSD, I have to say that it (now) >installs more easily than almost all commercial systems. [It >wasn't so nice under 2.0.x etc.]. Also, the basic operating system >is more stable and secure than some commercial Unix systems, >not to mention vastly more stable than some popular commercial >non-Unix systems. However, I can't compare it to linux since >I have no experience there; perhaps linux is even easier to install >and even more stable. At this point, though, FreeBSD seems easy >enough. In short, I'm very impressed by the basic OS; it seems >surprisingly mature for "server" applications. > >So, I'm surprised to see complaints specifically about the >installs, either on 2.2.1, 2.2.2, or 3.0-current. > > You, of course seem to have quite a bit of experience in installing balky software. This will tend to cause one to overlook difficulties in installations. I have managed to in the end have a fully function FreeBSD O/S. Although I have migrated to FreeBSD because its stabiltity and security, it is also understood that there is nothing inherently wrong with Linux. I just wanted to see FreeBSD operation and performance first hand. I know of no other easy way short of installing it. The posts are to share some of the little things that do not quite work as advertised. Too often, those who work in the developement and maintainance of complex software systems, do not see or attach any particular significance to these little niggling potholes on the road to a successful install. They by rote know how to deal with them and do so without a moment of reflection. It is the same for the technical literature that accompanies these systems. It is all perfectly clear and understandable to anyone submerged in it, but somewhat of a mystery to those newly acquainted with it. Why? Because it is a given to those writing and maintaining said documentation that all the prerequiste knowledge is both known and understood by those who will be reading said material. This works great for those in that milieu but is mystifying to newcomers. > > >-- > Hugh LaMaster, M/S 258-5, ASCII Email: >hlamaster@mail.arc.nasa.gov > NASA Ames Research Center Or: lamaster@nas.nasa.gov > Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 No Junkmail: USC 18 section 2701 > Phone: 415/604-1056 Disclaimer: Unofficial, personal >*opinion*. -- IHS pavanas We are but dust and shadow. Quintus Horatius Flaccus